Host Reed Galen is joined by David Pepper, the former chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party and author of the new book, Laboratories of Autocracy: A Wake-Up Call from Behind the Lines. They discuss how the greatest threat to American democracy isn’t the antics of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, or Jim Jordan…and it’s not even Donald Trump’s “Big Lie”…it’s the anonymous, often corrupt politicians in statehouses across the country (and the levers of power which they abuse) that pose the greatest dangers to our democracy.